Dear Pierre, you ask if the aphorism should be better represented in question form.
In answer, I quote Archimedes:
“Give me an immovable fulcrum and a lever long enough, and I shall move the Earth.”
The “lever long enough” would be a very long definition or aphorism and the fulcrum would be the point at the end. The long sentence would include (along with every other definition about the Earth) the longest word in the dictionary, a 45-letter word about a lung disease preventing someone from breathing. (Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis)
Interestingly, the more still and stable the fulcrum, the more power we have to create movement.
This is exactly the elementary relationship between a statement, period or point, and a question or question mark. An elementary use of a period is for a statement about earthy things, as in objects touchable, visible, smell-able, taste-able, etc., but the statement has been expanded into non-elementary use for almost everything. There are very few questions recognized as unable to be transmuted into statements. All questions are transmutable to statements (and vice versa) in a mystical sense. ( difficult is a definition of the question, see my paper “Many Roads from the Axiom of Completeness”) The elementary question is to suggest possibility and inspire wonder, but less lofty are to suggest uses, ways, means, and to compel specific actions or beliefs in others.
An example of how statements can compel is a published exchange between the Dalai llama with a group of scientists trying to persuade the Dalai Llama, or at least the audience, to the side of science. The Dalai Llama asked how life originally sprung from the primal molten Earth, and a scientist answered with a long string of statements that went on and on, somewhere lost in that string of statements life sprung, but the mystery and wonder of it was disguised by a pretense of hard work that produces heavy, relentless, knowing statements.
Another example of transmuting an unanswerable question into a string of statements is the mathematical proof of the impossibility of squaring the circle. We have, essentially, a question of means and we write mathematical statements to circumscribe this question as completely as we can. Once we have closed all entrances to this mysterious question “How do I make a square of a circle?” we may be persuaded of its singular openness with “One cannot square the circle.” This is not at all the truth, it can be done with mathematical imperfection, imprecision, vague pragmatic attempts. With one of these attempts, the mathematician will argue that it is not done. Only mathematicians decide when work is really finished, and the “…” ensures that we never are finished.
In the same way that we can transmute perfect stillness to the most irresistible movement, we can transmute all questions into statements, and that is exactly what is attempted by Aristotle with his Law of the Excluded Middle. The Law assumes that in any question of “this or not this?”, the reality is not a question but an answer of either “this.” or “not this.” (the elementary this, about an earthy thing). The question is unreal, it is purposefully split in two, like a doctor producing a schizophrenic.
Here I am going over ground that I have run so often, it feels like a hamster wheel. This is the feeling teachers get from teaching the same specific subject every year, which was my profession before illness.
We ask how to make the most stable truths, the aphorisms, into forms of movement. Generally, the movement of the aphorism is from an example, or a smaller sentence, that indicates or is inscribed in a generality about many sentences. This movement from the inscription to a generality is traditionally called induction. Bachelard conflates the word induction for the general action for his subject in “Air and Dreams.” And induction is conflated in many other ways in philosophical literature. I add to these conflations the symbol “…” used for mathematical induction, which has been the replacement for persistent questions, (such as what is the smallest particle). Here, the question is replaced with an imagination of answers beyond the horizon, deferred to future investigation. An imaginary continuousness of answers, not answers directly experienced here and now.
The most general movement is the movement of time, such as with a still rock, or water that flows in a way that appears still (Aj. Sumedho). This general movement inscribes another kind of movement: the movement from one time-stream to another. This is allowed with discontinuities in mindfulness, in vagueness, expanding on the general, on grasping beyond the horizon by inquiring about possibility. How to make the leap between time-streams well-leaped? What axioms and global constants/concepts do we wish to leap to? This is the next kind of airplane we must construct. If this airplane ends up as something commercialized, like our form of utilizing electricity and commercial airplanes, we will still find this last and most free kind of movement contained in another cage owned by our masters of capital.
While we have reached the heights: the power in the vagaries of clouds to generate light in the form of a shocking idea, we must remember that this is only enjoyable as long as we have the heart for it. And love is the fundamental reality, cutting through all time streams. To leap well, and be Well-Gone, is to leap between time streams to this fundamental: the molten iron from which the worlds are forged both hot and cold: Ultimate Truth: this door between all worlds that leads to unbinding:
Peace and friendships,
Andrew
Dear Andrew
Aphorism resembles the axiom: it is a proposal received and accepted as true without demonstration…
For objectivism, it is impossible to deny an axiom without contradicting oneself: for example “there exists an absolute truth” or “the language exists” are axioms. Others, like the mathematician Gödel, think that no axiom can be both demonstrated and refuted. Aphorism resembles the axiom. In ancient Egypt there is only one word for ‘certainty’ and ‘uncertainty’.
“While we have reached the heights: the power in the vagaries of clouds to generate light in the form of a shocking idea, we must remember that this is only enjoyable as long as we have the heart for it. And love is the fundamental reality, cutting through all time streams. To leap well, and be Well-Gone, is to leap between time streams to this fundamental: the molten iron from which the worlds are forged both hot and cold: Ultimate Truth: this door between all worlds that leads to unbinding:
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“it is impassable schist to have to be here thrown against time”
Cédric Demangeot
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Dear Pierre, I love that fact about Ancient Egyptian.
I agree that aphorisms are similar to axioms. And your comment has prompted me to make an edit to my post replacing “global constants” with the word “axioms.” Thank you for the correction.
My favorite example of resemblance is with Lewis Carrol’s question “How is a raven like a writing desk?” I would like to bring up the possibility that a raven dies and is on the ground where a tree grows. The raven is taken in by the roots of the tree, becoming part of the tree that is later cut down and used to make a writing desk. In this case, Lewis Carrol’s question that was meant to show an utter distinction between two things is answerable with, not only a likeness between the raven and the writing desk, but physically the SAME atoms move from the raven to the writing desk. It is my opinion that sameness is just as universal, interesting, and helpful as precise distinctions.
I have no point in the form of a distinction to make in my thoughts. So I find your poem profound, even though the poem is almost completely quiet.
I also do not believe any axioms are true or certain. About this, I have made many mathematical arguments on this blog.
As for Gödel, I would correct what you said to say his incompleteness theorems demonstrate that axioms are either false or they cannot be *completely* demonstrated. Axioms can be partially demonstrated.
Ultimate Truth I consider a matter of spirituality, not of mathematics. In mathematics there are little partial truths, axioms being the beginning of such. I have heard in my education the words “pose an axiom.” I believe this shows some similarity between “posing” axioms, and posing questions. Mathematics is still beautiful and extremely useful. For brevity I will stop there. Thank you kindly for the discussion my friend!
Friendships,
Andrew
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pardon Andrew for my misinterpretation of Gödel …
amitiés
Pierre
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Poetry has to blend in with reality – so that it is no longer tangible. Poetry must be about reality – from within.
Poetry must sabotage reality and bring it back to life.
It is not in his verse more or less short or long that we smell the poet or recognize him. It is in the way – necessarily alone – that the page he has soiled sweats the real or not. It is a smell that does not deceive.
Explain a poem: have the carp disgorged. ( Most often, with a fork.)
The word poetry: the most misunderstood of all.
Poetry is not research. She is like blood, connected to herself, good driver of an ignorant life, of its movement, of its efficiency. (Perros)
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La poésie doit se mêler du réel – faire en sorte qu’il n’aille plus de soi. La poésie doit concerner le réel – de l’intérieur. La poésie doit saboter le réel et le rendre au vivant.
Ce n’est pas à son vers plus ou moins court ou long qu’on flaire le poète ou qu’on le reconnaît. C’est à la façon –forcément seul – dont la page qu’il a salie sue du vrai ou pas. C’est une odeur qui ne trompe pas.
Expliquer un poème : faire dégorger la carpe. ( Le plus souvent, à coup de fourchette.)
Le mot poésie : le plus mal entendu de tous.
La poésie n’est pas une recherche. Elle est comme le sang, reliée à elle-même, bonne conductrice d’une vie ignorante, de son mouvement, de son efficacité. (Perros)
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one else, dazzled by default, distracting his comrades by reciting poems of his making, (he was shot on the spot).
On n’en a vu un autre, ébloui par défaut, distraire ses camarades, en récitant des poésies de sa fabrication, (on le fit fusiller sur le champ).
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Fork as you will, you are a much bigger fish than I, my friend. With love, a poem in reaction to your poem with 0s.
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And Great Buddha:
With good will for the entire cosmos,
cultivate a limitless heart:
Above, below, & all around,
unobstructed, without hostility or hate.
Sutta Nipāta 1.150
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in French, when you sand champagne, it foam
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